I think they finally realized what happened ^_^

U mAd $oNy?

seems a bit late to be doing this, might have prevented quite a bit if they had filed claims sooner, but it may deter future endeavor's

Don't think so. The whole "legal process" takes quite a while if you know anything about law. I think Team failOverflow and Geohot still have a lot of time to produce hacks before their court date.

true enough, but that doesn't mean they couldn't have publicly announced their taking legal action against them

A little to late there Sony. LOL

Sony didn't make it public, Geohot did. You can't sue someone without telling them you're suing them.

And to think Geohot didn't want to support piracy because it might not get him a job in the industry or with Sony.... (at least that's what I think he was aiming for)

ah, i didn't realize the link went to geohot's site, my bad then, guess sony wanted to keep this quiet?

Companies don't often issue a press release when they sue someone. There's no point, since it doesn't effect the public.

In the document, Sony says that unlike the monetary loss caused to them by the defendants' actions, they only request that the defendants cease distribution of the illicit tools. How sweet.

I think that means they have no case from a legal standpoint, like how jailbreaking smartphones is legal.

1st: they should sue the security developrs (that by now likely have lost theit jobs) as THEY were the ones screwing up

2nd: they should sue ps3-news, as they are WAY worse and actually leaking Sony (c) material - geohot didn't leak anything.

Man this is crazy, honestly if anything they should be paying Geohot...Why you ask, well since the beginning he knew the vulnerabilities and weaknesses of the ps3 for example with the Other Os option. After he made it known and had a youtube video you bet your ass sony was ready with a new update to eliminate the other OS option and also didn't include it in the new consoles...Wow all that work into getting into it they take what he did then tried to kill it with an update....

Another thing that bothers me about Big Companies is in the end we fork the court cost and bills for thier lawsuits, unlike when you have a dispute and you go to small claims and private courts the loser forks the bill..If sony does intend to sue we get stuck with the bill win or loose, Mzoft has been doing it for years so they don't mind taking them "Hackers" to court because it doesnt cost them much at all because most of their lawyers are on retainers and court cost is on the american people.

I wish Geohot all the best and I really hope that this doesn't weaken his drive not just for the ps3 but pretty much for anything because this kid has a lot of talent. Thanks!

This will probably fuel the hacking community even more.

Sad, really. They're only doing Sony a favour.

In most european countries it's definitely legal to jailbreak a PS3 or iPhone, whatever. Mass distribution of the tools to accomplish the job however, may possibly be illegal, well at least if you take payment for it.

Cool story bro.

Whatever happened to remaining Anonymous when releasing hacking tools? Why did Geohot have to reveal his identity to the public in the first place. I am sure if he didn't reveal his true identity, then this lawsuit would probably have never happened to begin with.

Just my 2 cents.

Geohot has put back the keys and jailbreak on his site.

Good point. I guess cracking some of the world's best and secure systems (well not anymore XD) just goes to some people's heads. As if they need to be recognized by everyone who follows. Doesn't everyone love a good attention whore? :P

Just keep it low key and you'll probably have nothing to worry about. Although in this situation, said names don't really have to worry too much huh?

I have no joke for this post...

amazing

Like the old adage goes "break one off, two would spring in its place." It's the hydra philosophy. In my opinion, its rather too late for Sony at this point...the damage has been done, the only thing to do know is to minimize the onslaught for just a few more moments--to reel in the money before the boat capsizes.

Christ Sony, Geohot basically offered to come and work for you, to fix your fucked up security, and you do this?

Smart move.

I doubt anything will come of this to be honest. The defense lawyers will have the iPhone jailbreak case to refer to.

contrary to what many movie's show, you don't get a job because you destroyed their home, and offer to fix it back up

There are hackers though that have gotten jobs as security consultants before with Kevin Mitnick being one of the most famous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Mitnick

hmm, i read the article, it doesn't say if he got the job directly because of a hack, or if he just decided to become an security consultant

edit: ok, he started the career of becoming a security consultant for company's, but that doesn't mean he got a particular job because he hacked into their network, although i'm sure their are cases of it happening, i don't see geohot's situation as being one of those cases though

Ugh, fine.

Here's a few more examples

Ashley Town

http://www.planet-numbers.co.uk/blog/iphone-hacker-gets-job-with-apple/

Daniel Cuthbert

http://www.silicon.com/technology/security/2005/11/11/tsunami-hacker-gets-it-security-day-job-39154136/

Michael Mooney

http://www.secpoint.com/twitter-hacker-gets-job-for-his-efforts.html

Peiter Zatko

http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10450552-245.html

does it ever state who the other "Does 1 through 100" are? im interested to know who else is included in this suit, and how they plan on suing them if they dont have any other information besides there usernames xD

It's quite easy to find someone's information if you look in the right places. A lot of time, they may use the same username for facebook or twitter so that's the first place to look. If you know that they go onto IRC channels then looking through logs may be useful too. Finally, just going through 100 pages of google may help you find their real name.

yea, im sure you can find information on most people. it just seems to me that if that had that information they wouldnt be "Does" anymore. im not a legal expert but it doesnt make sense to me that you can prove someone is actually that person just based on a username, but i might just be naive :p

My guess is they just made that number up in an effort to scare others that might want to continue work on the PS3.

I read through a good portion of the documents, it seems to me that Sony is really trying to sell the fact that they broke US law, which I'm not sure just how crazy the DMCA is there, but if jailbreaking iPhones was deemed legal, then I don't think Sony have a leg to stand on in this.

Obviously, Geohot doesn't either because he has the root key and tools still posted on his site.

Anyone actually think Fail0verflow or Geohot broke any laws?

What kind of movies do you watch?

Considering the situation Sony are in, and have been for a while with security, I highly doubt developers are jumping at the chance for a job with Sony. Geohot, along with few other people, understand how this works and can do them a favour.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/11/sony-sues-geohot-fail0verflow-over-ps3-exploits/

FailOverfl0w released all their stuff in response to the upcoming lawsuit.

It's pointless now, the lawsuit, there's at least 7 mirrors already out.

Linky: http://psx-scene.com/forums/672106-post4.html

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p39/ndman70/qT75O.png

:D

Sony's Second Epic Fail. See page 247 of Court Document 4 (Exhibit T). No need for TRO, The keys are now public domain! Thanks Sony! haha!

@Mathieulh reweet from @KaKaRoToKS

hahaha Geohotz u RULE man, but why go public?? why not stay anonymous like DArk_aleX??. . . .i mean the only time he went public was via phone with BBC ( or was it mathliehh or some name like that??)

Well still u rule man

Lmao! I laugh!! Hard core!! Anyways, I dont see why Sony is having such a big fit over this. They knew it was going to happen. They new, just like all their other systems, that people were going to beable to hack them and create their own homebrews. I dont see Microsoft suing every time someone creates a homebrew for the 360 or something for the PC... I mean come on Sony!!! You have enough revenue coming in from other product lines, and you have to throw a fit when someone makes your stuff alot more fun? I would hire them on the spot.